Well,it might be ''utterly absurd'' for you but this is easily explained by the fact that you live in the IP.So off course when a myth is deconstructed in our eyes we tend to not believe anything.
The only myth is the one that you are trying to create.
For example how many people knew that Attica in Greece can climatologically challenge any area in the continent in the summer means?Who knew in IP that Athens can challenge the warmest areas of Andalusia and win in each and every point? Apart from that who was aware that it was Athens the area to have the highest temperature ever to be recorded in Europe and in fact in two suburbs simultaneously and also the highest frequency of temperatures over 45C in Europe just next to the sea?Who was aware that Athens's port can have minimums in the summer at par with the Red Sea?.
About the basic question « who knew», I guess that no one in Greece ( not even climatologists) try to publish anything scientific regarding that subject because they are well aware of their limitations. Data is scanty and results can be ( more probably) misleading.We are not in 2050 or in 2100.
Let's us not kid ourselves,my presence in the meteoforums has done two serious things
a.It has deconstructed all the myths of warm climatology regarding Europe
b.It has created a strong interest for Greece's warm climatology.Just look at this thread.How many post of Ferreiro are for Spain and how many are for Greece?If I count them I think he focuses more to Greece than Iberia!That is a victory in itself
So why follow the logic of people who live in IP and go to rounds answering random things in order to treat their insecurities?I am merely providing official info from the current official climatological knowledge we currently have!And to this extent i am always backed up officially by AEMET . HNMS, IN, Metoffice etc in what I say.
You should know that Greece has a good reputation of being very warm on the summer. Saying otherwise is bullshit.
Short term data worries me, you know... About 4 years ago, my sister and her friend went to Greek islands ( on August), in the 3 days that she was there, the temperatures hardly went over 24ºc degrees, the nights were a bit freshy, it was windy and even on 1 day she got rain ( drizzle)... Fortunately that the sea was at 24ºc or so, if not she would end her 3 vacation days outside of the coast.
When she arrived at Lisbon it was 32ºc, clear sky...
So, I would say that using short term data, as it´s being used can lead us to dangerous conclusions. Lisbon, has variations in the summer ( some places are much warmer than the others), locally can be similar to some parts of Greek lowlands on the summer, but that´s fishy, you know...
And I´m not insecure about nothing, I´m well aware of both countries advantages and disadvantages.You cherry pick information instead ( you don´t like certain meteorological data), but I´m more worried about the quality of climatological data posted, not about others preferences... Certain data that you post here, is taken from weather stations that have NO conditions to pick up official data, however they are classified as official... That´s why I asked for pictures of the weather stations.
Actually some amateur weather stations, have more conditions to measure data than many official ones. And for me what´s more important is serious measuring, not weather stations near bakers that have an official stamp on them.
Southern Greece is really unbeatable and this is not a making of Mesogeiakos.By the end of the year it will become obvious that the mean temps of the South Greece will be by far superior to any area of the IP even with record breaking conditions in IP...It is maths and science and as I said I have been studying the warm climatology of Europe and Greece more than 15 years.
Talking about raw science, even places that aren´t located in the warmest places of Iberia, are pretty close in temperatures, comparing with the much more studied warmest spots of Greece, which is actually shocking I would say. In fact, I thought that Greece would be warmer than that, but it´s warm anyway, no doubt...
If we start to located the warmest posts in big Iberia and start to measure data there, things can be tough...
It´s even funny, the fact that people is aware of modern weather data showing a completely false idea about how really warm is Iberia and still is use it´s data to compare with some of the warmest places in Europe.
The more laughable last happening is measure a record at shade inside a forest ( Amareleja) on an high place ( Morena mountain system?)...
People talk about low wind movements, but forests are usually much fresher on the summer,( we don´t need to think on rocket science) we know about radiation, we know about shady places, we know that water lower the temperature maximum during daytime ( leaves are full of water for example, and clearly radiate it...). This is my opinion about it.
This is just one example, between so many others.
Greece has a unique climate in Europe,holding all the warm records of the continent both in the summer and the winter and its complexity is highlighted with all the relevant info that are provided.You see belem it is this deconstruction that I have achieved that is making you and most of Iberianos react so strongly to Greece's climatology...
Which unique climate is that?
Well, I guess that each climate in the world or space is unique.
Regarding your so called warm climatology, I guess that you have a problem, which is called : scanty data!
Scanty data can give us misleading results. I have been warning you about this countless times, but you don´t pay attention. Honestly, if you were interested on the truth, you would refrain on making more assumptions, but you don´t...
Finally,Ian Williams and myself have spotted the methodological errors of Dedalus in his calculations and we will be presenting them here soon!
As we say in Greek...Εις το επανιδειν!
I would also like to know about your antagonism about Rivaz and about Bioclimatics...
