what do you mean?According to the simple mean method commonly used internationally, Athenian means surpass Seville in the summer for the comparable period.Do you want a breakdown?
Athens to experience 50°C during the summer/ Greek Ministry of Climate Change
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what do you mean?According to the simple mean method commonly used internationally, Athenian means surpass Seville in the summer for the comparable period.Do you want a breakdown?
SEVILHA (mean) 23.9 27.4 27.2
SEVILHA (max) 31 35.3 35
ATHENS (mean) 24.7 27.2 27
ATHENS (max) 31.1 33.5 33.2
THISSIO (mean) 25.5 27.8 27.7
THISSIO (max) 30.6 33.1 32.8
TWo stations in Greece one in Sevilha... Mean and maximum temperature (The two discuted criteria to define a "hot place" (once again whatever that means)... Can you realy find here a significant diference... Can you find here any evidence that Athens is hotter than Sevilha... Realy i can't find and i'm only gathering data from 3 stations, and more than that I realy don't wanna know which is the hottest place. For me it's irrelevant!
I am sorry I was laughing with this
Ok I understand you are Portuguese so please listen carefully nowFirst of all the ''Athens'' station is in N.Filadelfeia suburb in North Athens
while Thisio as I said is in the heart of Athens apart from the fact that as I have said it is the most historic and representative station of the city
Now in terms of means
SEVILHA (mean) 23.9 27.4 27.2 =JJA mean = 26.17C
NEA FILADELFEIA (mean) 24.7 27.2 27 =JJA mean=26.3C
THISSIO (mean) 25.5 27.95* 27.65 =JJA mean= 27.03C
Now focusing only on the directly comparable period of 1971-2000 we have
Athens 27.03C mean summer temp
Seville 26.17C mean summer temp
I am sure that you are aware that what makes an area warmer is the mean 24hour temperature.So either way Athens comes out warmer and in fact for the directly comparable period of 1971-2000 Athens is close to 1C warmer in summer means.Hope I helped you clarify now
*Btw your calculations Vitamos for July means for Thissio were wrong so I corrected them
Btw you will not find a single WMO station in Europe that for the period 1971-2000 had higher summer means than the station of the National Observatory of Athens
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Average mean temperature in summer (JJA), 1971-2000.
>=27,1ºC
Elche: 28,7ºC
Bailen: 28,2ºC
Cordoba (Miraflores): 28,0ºC
Alcolea de Tajo: 27,9ºC
Villatorres - Villargordo (Colegio): 27,3ºC
Los Gallardos: 27,1ºC
Santiago del Campo: 27,1ºC
Source: Iberian Climate Atlas
And do not forget that in most of Iberian peninsula, the warmest 3 month period is JAS, not the standard WMO summer JJA.
From an Atlas and Non WMO stations obviously?
Could you please provide the WMO codes for those stations please?
WTF!!
So, you don´t think AEMET or IM are capable of having rigorous and credible measurements?
IM at least uses VAISALA weatherstations, respecting all WMO fields ( as every Met office must do)...
Well, if this is yourargument, then, why should i believe in Helenic met office anyway?
You are always manipulating the truth on your way, you choose the urban heat stations located in the middle of a 5milion inhabitants town and now you simply say that other countries scientific publications do not have credit...just unbelivably stupid and maniac attitude from you..
Andre,are you referring to this Atlas here???
http://www.meteo.pt/resources.www/docs_pontuais/ocorrencias/2011/atlas_clima_iberico.pdf
Here are all the spanish data,can you direct me to those data you are quoting?They are not in this Atlas
http://www.meteo.pt/resources.www/docs_pontuais/ocorrencias/2011/atlas_clima_iberico.pdf
Here are all the spanish data,can you direct me to those data you are quoting?They are not in this Atlas
WTF!!
So, you don´t think AEMET or IM are capable of having rigorous and credible measurements?
IM at least uses VAISALA weatherstations, respecting all WMO fields ( as every Met office must do)...
Well, if this is yourargument, then, why should i believe in Helenic met office anyway?
You are always manipulating the truth on your way, you choose the urban heat stations located in the middle of a 5milion inhabitants town and now you simply say that other countries scientific publications do not have credit...just unbelivably stupid and maniac attitude from you..
Ok,where in the Atlas are those data?See my post above
And do not forget that in most of Iberian peninsula, the warmest 3 month period is JAS, not the standard WMO summer JJA.
This is also the case for areas of Greece as well
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mesogeiakos, look at this map (page number 35):
Climate network for air temperature in the Iberian Peninsula and the Balearic Islands
1503 stations.
In the Atlas book (pdf), you only have some of them.
But there's an Atlas CD edition with all data.
Data comes from Atlas CD edition. I extracted only the warmest mean temperature stations in JJA
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